From Feb. 5-6, Florizelle Liser, Assistant U.S. Trade
Representative for Africa in the Office of the United States Trade
Representative (USTR), led a U.S. delegation to Mauritius. They
came for the first annual meeting of the U.S.-Mauritius Trade
and Investment Council. The meeting is required under the Trade
and Investment Framework Agreement (TIFA), a new accord signed
last September that will expand trade between the United States
and Mauritius.
At the USTR, Ms. Liser directs U.S. trade efforts in sub-Saharan
Africa, oversees the African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA),
and serves as chief U.S. negotiator for a free trade agreement
with the five member countries of the Southern African Customs
Union. It was her first trip to Mauritius. In this wide-ranging
interview, Ms. Lizer expresses confidence that Mauritius can expand
its exports to America, but she doesn't believe this new trade
can totally replace the jobs lost in textiles and apparel.
Week-End: What were the main accomplishments of these trade
meetings?
Liser: We have a really good team of folks developing a
really good work plan that has 14-15 elements that cover a range
of issues that affect U.S.-Mauritian trade and investment. We
discussed a number of those issues at the meeting, and decided
there were 3-4 that we would focus on. One area that I'm very
excited about is making the linkages between our private sector
and Mauritian private sector to explore trade and trade opportunities.
We had a very good turnout at sessions held with the Mauritius
Board of Investment and Enterprise Mauritius. They had a lot of
ideas on ways to enhance these ties, so we will focus on this.
We talked about (Mauritian companies) coming to the United States
for talks with U.S. companies and then lay the groundwork for
U.S. businesses to go to Mauritius. One priority is to identify
competitive sectors in Mauritius in terms of exports to the U.S.
market. Another priority is coordinating AGOA implementation as
it concerns value-added production. One area of interest for Mauritius
is looking at U.S. technical regulations on industrial and agricultural
standards. This will have an impact on the kinds of agricultural
products it can sell to the United States and whether it can be
competitive selling industrial products in the U.S. market. We
also want to explore what other kinds of agreements we can have
between U.S. and Mauritius, using the TIFA to build other agreements.
For example, should we explore a bilateral investment treaty between
U.S. and Mauritius?
As you see it, what are some of the barriers to attracting
more U.S. business investment and trade with Mauritius?
If you don't have frequent, low-priced air service to a place
like Mauritius, it makes it very difficult to sell people on the
tourism side and the business side as well. The flight from Washington
to Johannesburg is 15 hours and 40 minutes, and the flight on
to Mauritius is another two and one-half hours, so you've really
got to want to do business in a place where you're prepared to
fly that far. We think there are a lot of good reasons for American
companies to be in Mauritius, given the economic reforms that
have been made, and the fact that relative to other sub-Saharan
African countries, Mauritius is advanced, with a pretty strong
services sector. They are doing good things, and this is why we
decided to sign a TIFA. We believe Mauritius sets a very good
model for what we'd like to see happening in other places in sub-Saharan
Africa. But again, because of where it is geographically and that
you have to take a special interest in going to Mauritius, it
will be tough to sell to Americans to invest there. We have a
tough time getting American businesses to invest in Ghana and,
and that's six hours away. I don't mean to be discouraging, but
it would be good for Minister (of Foreign Affairs, International
Trade and Cooperation) Madan Dulloo, along with other cabinet
members, to give thought to what they might be able to do to attract
more U.S. interest.
Could the TIFA eventually lead to a Free Trade Agreement
(FTA) with the United States, which would open up even more trade
opportunities?
The minister (Dulloo) certainly raised this desire, but right
now, because of the current situation with TPA (the U.S. president's
trade promotion authority) expiring, we have our hands full with
a number of FTAs that have not yet gone to Congress for ratification.
We're not starting any additional FTA negotiations at this point.
When Congress ratifies TPA again, the Bush administration will
look at possible new FTA partnerships. Hopefully at that point,
we can get the administration to at least think about some of
the African countries. Our biggest issue with Mauritius is that
the size of trade is relatively small. The other issue is the
extent to which sugar and textiles are top exports. The more that
Mauritius is diversified in its trade, the more the case can be
made (for a FTA). If a country's major exports to the United
States are two of the most sensitive (product areas for trade)
that we have - the chances of an FTA would be very difficult.
I personally hope that the case can be made that FTAs with sub-Saharan
Africa will be worth pursuing. Whether or not we can make the
case that Mauritius is one of them, we'll have to see.
During your visit, did you get the sense that Mauritius
is committed to expand trade links with the United States?
If you look at the trade numbers over the past few years, it has
been on a steady trajectory upwards until this past year, which
held steady. Apparel imports to the United States went down, but
then we saw that overall trade was able to hold steady because
of exports of products like eyeglasses, toys, and fish. But we
also saw what will be a new opportunity for Mauritius in apparel.
I brought back a pair of jeans being exported under AGOA for (American
designer) Calvin Klein in which the cotton came from Benin and
Mali. I was so impressed, as this shows the importance of vertical
integration. We have seen this in China, where they can make everything
they need for the apparel in one place. We haven't seen this vertical
integration in too many places (in Africa), so this was a really
great sign. When I went to a textile show in Las Vegas last week,
they had an international sourcing building with about 35 African
producers. At the show, I talked about the fact that Mauritius
isn't importing denim, but is making it from cotton from other
African countries. That is new and it sets Mauritius up as a model
on how to do vertical integration. People in Mauritius are very
positive about exports to the U.S. I toured a tuna processing
plant that was fascinating. The fish was caught off Mauritius,
de-boned and cooked at the factory, frozen and then exported to
the United States. Last year exports of tuna under AGOA shot up
significantly. That factory was just 18 months old and employs
1,400 workers.
These new developing areas for exports, however, are still
small, especially compared to big drop in exports of clothing
and apparel. Do you think these new sectors will grow enough
to make up for lost apparel exports?
The past two years have been a tough period for a lot of countries
in the global apparel industry. Mauritius is not the only one
that has struggled to figure out how to stay ahead of the game.
The losses are enormous for them, in the vicinity of 30,000 jobs.
I don't think they will get back 30,000 jobs but there are several
key things that will happen for Mauritius that will help make
up for the losses. First, Mauritius has a real opportunity in
higher-valued products and niches. For example, they are doing
cashmere sweaters, and they've developed niches that some of the
other Africans can't do. So I think they'll make up some of the
losses with higher-value goods. Second, as the Mauritian apparel
and textile industry becomes more vertically integrated, it will
be able to recapture or capture some of the U.S. market. Third,
I think diversification, moving from apparel to other products
like jewelry and fish processing, will help. But will it make
up for the losses in apparel in terms of jobs? I don't think it
will happen over the short-term. But over the medium to long term,
Mauritius will be much better off having a more diversified economy
that isn't so dependent on apparel and sugar. Another example
is the move to develop biofuels using sugar. Mauritius will get
a whole lot more money for biofuels than for sugar at the end
of the day. Also, China wants to move into production of more
sophisticated things like automobiles, so someone will have to
move in and take over the manufacture of lower industrial products,
such as washing machines and dryers. I could see that happening
in Mauritius. They should be looking to manufacture lower-end
electronic appliances. If you can be competitive, you can export
to Africa, India and other places in the world. South Africa,
for example, is sending us cars and a whole range of manufactured
products.
Mauritius is seeking a derogation under AGOA that would
allow manufacturers to use so-called "third-country"
fabric in the making of apparel that is sold in America. They
came close to winning the derogation in the amended AGOA bill
that passed Congress in December, and will try again this year.
Do you think Mauritius will succeed this time around?
We think that with the new leadership of the House Ways and Means
Committee, under Chairman Charlie Rangel, who has helped Mauritius
get third-country fabric in the past and is a long-time supporter
of AGOA, Congress will be more open to allowing Mauritius to get
it.
Will the Bush administration support Mauritius in its efforts
to win the derogation?
I don't know that we'll come out with a position, but basically
we're working with Congress to see what package we could get through.
I had many discussions (last year) about why USTR thought that
giving Mauritius access to third country fabric made a lot of
sense. Mauritius has invested in other places in Africa. I visited
a factory in Mali where there's a Mauritian investor and they
are making high quality cotton yarn, which comes back to Mauritius.
They are investors in Madagascar, and have been an important part
of Africa's vertical integration. So on this basis, it makes sense
to give Mauritius some portion of the third country fabric cap.
I think we'll go back (to Congress this year) and make a case
to do this, and we've encouraged Mauritius to go to Congress and
sit down with appropriate people on the House and Senate side
and have that discussion.
Will there be another AGOA bill this year?
My expectation is that we'll be fine tuning AGOA all the way to
the end, when it is scheduled to end in 2015. This is an important
(trade law) to the United States. We want it to work, and we want
to expand the country utilization and the product utilization
under AGOA.
Are African countries fully benefiting from the expanded
trade opportunities of AGOA?
There's a lot of room for improvement, but the law has been undeniably
a success. Two-way trade between the U.S. and Africa in six years
between 2001 and 2006 has more than doubled. When AGOA started,
(sub-Saharan African) apparel was less than one percent in terms
of the share of the U.S. apparel import market, and now it is
2 percent. Some people say that's very small, but that doubling
from less than 1 percent to 2 percent has created 60,000-70,000
jobs in Africa. Even if Africans are able to capture just a very
tiny share of the $14 trillion U.S. market, whether it's in cut
roses, cashews, apparel, fish or footwear, jobs will be created
and this will help alleviate poverty. Will Africa ever have 25
percent of the U.S. import market or will they ever fully utilize
AGOA? Maybe not, but the point is as long as they can continue
to expand the export of a widening range of products duty-free
to the U.S, it will have an enormous impact on Africa. We've already
seen the difference it makes.